I used the 5D mk ii a bit too but it just didn’t have the magic of the 5D, even though on paper it’s obviously a better spec. you could imagine a camera doing. The Sigma is nice but it lacks a screen as the top mounted in the Sony R1 (feels like medium format a bit and I used it this way to street and gardens) but outside that to me it’s fine and enough to just take photographs. You are dead right on this. A box that’s not particularly well made physically or finished. “What’s even more frustrating is that some of the functions can’t be assigned to ‘C’ buttons or the ‘Fn’ menu. It’s farcically overcomplicated, and entirely uninspiring to use. Dude, your “dad camera” sectiondescribes the exact reason I’m not getting an a7rii, now that rumors of an a7iii are becoming more solid. Alternatively, please feel free to chuck a few pennies in the tip jar via Ko-fi: kofiwidget2.init('Support Me on Ko-fi', '#46b798', 'D1D0KHG8');kofiwidget2.draw(); Learn about where your money goes here. It will help loads of photographers out there who can’t afford to upgrade to the new A7RIII. Great review, great blog. Even within the length of my photography career, I’ve seen big advancements in the objective quality of lenses available for 35mm size format camera. Take perfect. As I’ve alluded to, the idea of this design approach is basically to make a thing that does all of the things that a thing of its type could possibly need to do – almost regardless of whether or not these things will ever be used. Hey great example of a whiny article with a clickbait title. I am interested in fairly priced a7II. The 5D, rightly called a classic is a good bet. It does not have enough buttons. What’s wrong with you? Ironically, your response to my review is quite similar to my response to the Sony…, I get the impression you’ve insulted someone’s favourite camera…. I have the A7R mk1 and Love it! 0% Finanzierung. Das für viele wohl charakteristischste Merkmal der Sony a7R II: Die Auflösung von 42 Megapixel auf einem riesigen Vollformat-Bildsensor. Bummer. MwSt. Since then the likes of Zeiss and Sigma have upped the anti. Some things pointed out by my testing. It´s a camera to be operated, not an extention of the photographer´s creative mind. Even the A7R shutter button felt like it was in the wrong place! As a professional I find it’s consumer features obstruct me as a pro – that’s what I’m talking about when I talk about it being a dad cam. Brian Smith. Every time I use the A7RII I’m worried that it might not be working correctly. So my grand plan of saving the cost of buying the Sony 70-200mm went out the window. Yeah but the flexibility the extra resolution gives you is amazing. The reason I suppose is that the ‘creative eye’ is not a technical competence it is a human right – an evolution of sensing and seeing. Thanks very much, I will try that today! Not the Sony A7Rii. The Sony A7R II is the world's best camera for hobbyists, but DSLRs make better pictures faster for serious work. As for a thing for taking photos, for letting the inspiration flow, its simple cameras that do that for me. You could even do a section on memory cards and how fast they are! Never mind trying to change settings while wearing gloves! In the world I work in, when I’m taking photos that will mostly be resized down to 1600px on the long edge for use on websites, or at most be used for a full page advert in a magazine where the aforementioned 3000 x 2000px is more than enough, even within the realms of this lazy approach, 99% of the time I’m actually way over-delivering on what I produce. That said, I found your take on the a7rII honest and a reflection of your own personal experience with it. But it doesn’t “feel” cool. I had one of the sigma foveon cameras once – I wish i’d kept it now. Now that WOULD be interesting…. It’s no exaggeration to say that I’ve delivered photos to clients that were taken at 12,800 ISO, and comfortably too. Je tente de répondre à vos question It does inspire me over simpler cameras or DLRS because it gives me options but everything else you said is very true. What possible use is this? He loved the images from the Fuji…until the sun went down. Love the performance, hate the interface! My backup Sony A7S is only 12mp, and that never gets noticed as a limitation either. But there is something “off” about this camera and when you talk about it being a professional camera that’s not really professional, you’re putting your finger on the issue. Missed focus shots made me go delving into the menu to find out if I’d set something wrong…. I usually shoot manual lenses in AP and have recently discovered that if I set the EV compensation to the unused front or rear dial, the actual compensation dial to 0 and fix the ISO to whatever the circumstances demand, then that assigned EV dial has 5ev not the usual 3ev compensation either way. It could even be argued that since the camera allows the room for error that it does, taking a more manual approach might give me back the satisfaction I require, but yet be less risky than if I were to use a less technically good camera. Popular interchangable lens cameras » Popular compact cameras » Features. Schlimm? You can verify this by switching to the viewfinder, and then shutting off the camera. That’s a decent-sized lens sitting on a little body. After looking at prices, it’s beyond my current budget. However, I think your “lazyness” take on it is more than justified. But unlike with Nikon where I became quite pragmatic about it and shot with cameras for much longer, Sony have me trapped in this idea that 2 years is plenty long enough to own a digital camera. The reality is – as mentioned – the Sony A7rii simply far outperforms my requirements, and indeed the requirements of my clients. . Thanks again for the comment! Occasionally, I will pick it up and shoot some frames with it. But … I could never get rid of the itch to fill my hand with the heavier, bigger, but more hand-friendly 5D. …The problem is, using the Sony A7rii as a professional camera feels a lot harder than using it how I do, and not harder in a way that makes it more rewarding, harder in a way that just leaves me frustrated and a little confused. This high camera resolution and ability to crop is also aided by modern lenses. Broadly speaking, clients don’t zoom in on images, and even if they do, a lot of the time the images they receive are downscaled meaning that they can’t zoom in so much as to be able to see it anyway. For real? I can see a time where cameras are completely customisable. Zudem arbeitet die Sony Alpha 7R II etwa ein Bild pro Sekunde schneller als ihre Vorgängerin mit sechs Megapixel weniger. It’s tonal scale for a digital camera is very good, no actually the best I’ve encountered. It can’t have just all the features I want and none of the others! My biggest joy since I got that camera was using my Helios 44 on the 20D, playing with the lens flare and bokeh. I’m sure to many his sounds like a completely ridiculous thing to moan about? More resolution maybe. (Here in Perú we’d say “un poco de hígado” [a bit of liver] when you’re angry]) “There’s a tendency among certain photographers to view shooting in manual as a mark of competence, but really I think the skill is in knowing when you can trust the camera and when you need to step in.”, This is something I particularly agree with – but its funny how some cameras feel like they are forcing themselves on you, where others allow you to use their automation in a way that feels like you are still in control. Well, for my 2 cents…I think the A7Rii is a marvelous piece of very professional gear that does come with a steep learning curve. There is a display on my A7 where you can specify the back screen to have parameters on, this is woefully complex, the only things I’m looking at on it are shutter speed, aperture and ISO, but it gives me zillion other things which I don’t need to know at that point, I’ve already set the camera to RAW in the menu, why do I need to be told constantly I’m shooting in RAW? The UT filter is also AR coated to reduce sensor reflections”. 30 Tage kostenlose Rücksendungen. I can’t do better photographs than with the own I own. Hi, Justin – some very good questions! You’re all over the place. It sounds like you and the Sony will make a great partnership… Get that automatic autofocus setting switched on and wave the fucker around on continuous shooting mode. If I had the money I’d get an M-D and probably a 50mm ZM planar and that would be all I’d need, I know that deep inside. Ok, I’ll admit, some did have slight customisation options, but at least they were labeled well and the variety of option available to each button made sense to the labelling of the button. You can have a read of that post here, but the general gist of it is that the compound effect of over-automation and over-specification is a huge increase in buttons and complication of design. The only thing I didn’t like on it was the LCD screen was utter rubbish, but when you look at the files it produces you forgive it that, understandable given the time it came out. I have an A7s with a Nikkor Micro 105mm lens connected via a novoflex adapter, and then a metabones adapter (nikon to M and then M to E…or maybe it’s the other way round). I’m such an a’hole and that section describes my precise motivations perfectly. His wife is a “boudoir” and product photographer in LA and she thinks my lazy, vain compulsions around photography are idiotic. Sony Alpha A7 Mark III Description. I read an interesting article recently by Q. Oliver about his journey from Sony to Fuji to Leica, which raised some of the same points. 42mp is such high out-of-camera resolution that it sometimes feels like it’s nudging me to not really work all that hard even when it comes to framing. Toward the end of my time with the Nikon system I had a Sigma 50mm Art which was an incredible lens. Thanks again for your blog and reviews…..Oh any chance of reviewing something a little cheaper…. I enjoy that I can get dual-use out of it 1) a methodical, purposeful manual digital camera with crazy resolution, and 2) a powerful P&S that sometimes outsmarts itself. The sony is aa superb tool at a fair price- the Leica – not so much. No camera is perfect. The menus are badly organized. I do agree with most of the points here. Then on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays I would get all impressed again at the insane resolution and sharpness of the a7r. How much do want for your Sony A7II? Or, depending on ambient light, I set the shutter speed and let the auto ISO do the rest. I’ve recently bought the 85 batis, and re-bought the Zeiss branded Sony 35. There is noise there, but you have to zoom in so much to see it, it’s hardly visible when viewed as a full image. It’s ok for me or anyone else to agree or disagree-I don’t find your criticisms of Sony’s product to be a personal assault toward me. All you need to know is that this all adds up to a device that has stunning output potential. So in a roundabout way, through Sony providing a shitty user experience you ended up as a reader of my site. Of course, in reality, difficult lighting is difficult lighting, and snap judgements about what to expose for aren’t always going to be correct. Wer die bestmögliche Bildqualität benötigt, sollte sich bei der Sony a7R II folglich auf maximal ISO 3.200 oder gar ISO 1.600 beschränken. This thing does almost the opposite – and this is simply because it’s not possible for a gadget this small to provide all of this function properly. Thank you. There is a post coming soon (I might publish it tomorrow actually) from a chap who is writing almost in response to this post – that would be very worth your while keeping an eye out for. The internet is full of nothing but. I’ll be finding a way to mention that constantly when I get my a7riii. It’s a case of breaking it down and thinking what do people actually need to use a camera. And I see no downside to having a wonderful sensor with low noise and lots of nice pixels to it (not implying you do). I want MTF charts for lenses too. Of course, in another sense it’s actually inspired something positive in me… It partly inspired in me a greater appreciation for the ‘uncomplicated camera‘, which in turn helped me commit to the decision to buy a Leica M9, a camera I now use instead of the Sony A7rii as much as I can get away with! For better or worse, camera tech is still largely speaking on a function-additive trajectory that is hard to see an end of in the current landscape of available gear. Zum einen aufgrund der hochauflösenden Darstellung. I have been searching for a non nonsense digital camera for quite some time and I thought one of these Sonys might just be the winner but now I don’t think so. After all, if I don’t like the framing of a photo I take, I can just crop it to something I do like. I would appreciate receiving some feedback regarding the results of your combo, please. I think that’s because the NEX/A7 design team learnt its trade with cameras like the DSC-F717 and F828, feature-rich consumer cameras designed for the enthusiastic amateur (no professional worth their salt would ever have used one). Now there is one more small step for sony to take – take off those fcuking bels and annoying bling whistles. This is a real pity, because the Sony Alpha DSLRs and (D)SLTs are an easy switch from Nikon or Canon. Yes its deeply personal. If what you see is not what you want, more importantly, you’re able to quickly act on the information before you press the button. Sony a7R II: Via WLAN und NFC kommuniziert die Profi-DSLM mit Smartphones. Review coming in a couple of months … , After some contemplation I found that I have second thought regarding a7II. Learn how your comment data is processed. I’ve only been shooting it a few months and curse the menu systems (always have), but I have learned to tame the beast by treating it (90% of the time) as a full-on manual camera – at that point, it’s just a simple body with auto-nothing – and it does its job well. It has a BSI sensor, which as far as I know is the first of its type in this size of camera/sensor. Verbessert hat sich auch der Verschluss: Das Auslösegeräusch wurde nicht nur deutlich leiser. I spoke to Zeiss in Germany this morning and was told that they do not recommend this lovely lens on the A7S – even not on the Mark II, though it should be less critical. Hamish, are you incapable of learning an interface? I prefer this over having auto ISO. Thing is that I complain about Sony, but still i investigated , bought it and use it. I have been struggling the past 3 years trying to find the balance between efficiency and creativity and fun for myself. (not nasty). And really if I have a problem with all the automation then why don’t I just shoot the camera in a more manual way? The Sonys are very much in the former category… whereas I find the fujis to be more in the latter. To see if I liked shooting with the smaller body and boy did I not like it one bit. For me, the amateur, if I’ve decided to invest in the effort of going out to spend the day shooting with a professional camera, I’m invested. I was unable to find the “Finder/Monitor Set” option for my custom key. I’d love to see what the Sony G Master stuff is like. The D750 is really a great camera and it still will be my main body. Per my testing I think it has a bit more, another stop or two at least given its latitude on the under exposure side (BSI here). Simply put, the ISO-less sensor has only one true speed (usually ISO 100 or 200), and every other speed is achieved by digital (post)processing. I annoy myself. All the stuff, just all in the wrong place. Again facetious; personally, I’d rather have neither mode cluttering my cameras menus, but the fact that this camera even inspires the question goes some way to emphasise the lunacy of it all. Even the few-year-old Nikon D3 that I praised by comparison earlier in the post is vastly over featured when compared to even the most complex of film cameras. Little Feng Shui is very well put… I’d not thought of it like that. My lengthy journey has ended up with 3 cameras at this point. Hamish – what do you think of the A9 then? I think we’re in a similar boat mate.. Einziger Nachteil beim Filmen: Die 4K-Bewegtbilder ziehen die Akkulaufzeit deutlich in den Keller. and your right, I have high hopes for the next gen… erg… . I don’t use EV compensation as many would shooting in auto modes. Auch bei Fotos kratz der Akku mit maximal 600 Auslösungen nur am oberen Durchschnitt. Both these types of shooting situations, and no doubt a few more have led me to decide continuous AF is worth a try, but really it’s only been of debatable use to me. Combined with the camera, this just gives me even more headroom for cropping. Panasonic for video. Best I’ve seen is Iridient. I did get your point. I eliminated the problem by changing the power saver timeout to 30 minutes so it won’t sleep between heats or during breaks. What’s the viewfinder like? FWIW, you can absolutely program silent mode to the Fn menu. It strikes me as a technical gizmo container that actually has very little photographic feng shui to it. Leica is making cameras that go the opposite direction: they take away functions. The reason I do shoot with it though is the quality of the files and the lenses are wonderfully sharp, and importantly it’s full frame, which is something I wanted. Hope this helps, it certainly improved my usability. And I do mean all (wanna see my original D1?). Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. It doesn’t endear you as a camera from a physical sense. The D800 will be replaced and the D810 was my choice…untill I came up with the idea of a A7rll. My journey into the Leica world has me wishing that the Panasonic and Sony had such nice precise manual focus but maybe I’m not aware of what is out there. You can also remove the dust filter ( A two minute job, taking it out and putting it back ) and shoot full spectrum IR with it, great for black and white, it’s two cameras for the price of one. For me it’s a tool that enhances the historical preservation of image making by sustaining the use of many time honored old lenses. für mit oder grüner Unterstreichung gekennzeichnete. Just learn how to customize this camera to your liking and enjoy it. I shoot digital much in the way you describe, setting auto ISO with a minimum shutter speed. He found the Sony a great workhorse, but the images a bit too clinical. I don’t take bad photos with it – quote the opposite – I just don’t enjoy taking them. Not knowing if that what’s next from Sony, or if there will be at least a good sized step in that direction just keeps me waiting for the upgrade… Which frankly, is just not the way I like to live my life!eval(ez_write_tag([[336,280],'35mmc_com-box-4','ezslot_10',182,'0','0'])); The issue is – whether I like it or not – having sold my Nikon’s and committed to the Sony system I’m not about to take a step backwards. Then I read your review. However. Someone trained w/ the camera can frame and shoot. That would be the ideal for me, but on this camera it wouldn’t solve the physical issues of badly labelled buttons etc. I mean, I quite like the “look” of it. I think the reason why the A7 series is so strange to former DSLR users is that Sony’s mirrorless design team has no DSLR experience. Anmelden Konto und Listen Anmelden Konto und Listen Bestellungen Entdecken Sie Prime Einkaufs-wagen. I could make my own simple camera. In the 70s, in the glory days of creative photography and good photogear, that mentality would have them bankrupt in 6 months. EV just stays at 0. If I shot 10,000 images with each of them–I would net the same number of “keepers” that my skills will allow regardless (with similar glass and peripherals). Stop wasting your time with these characterful vintage film cameras. It does sound to me like the M9 would suit you … It suits me very well indeed! Alternatively, for as little as $1 a month, you can help support the upkeep of 35mmc and get access to exclusive content over on Patreon. Or is it for people who are too lazy to switch between the two modes? Their design has no dynamic. It is after my main works-camera; the work horse of my photography and video company. I posted a few in my Jupiter-3 post, there’s even a picture of one of them in the post about the Yashica lens mod… And this next photo was taken – for fun – with a Sony A7rii. It’s just captured those precious moments. What’s most frustrating for me is the reason I feel so caught up in this frame of mind. So why do I shoot a Sony and not a Fuji then? Not something you just pick up and hold because of admiration of craft, beauty, or it just feels great in your hand. As someone mentioned (probably you Hamish), Sony have the tech and know how to make incredible world beating cameras. I was very wrong! I feel it at least gives me control back…essentially it functions as a shutter speed dial. And that’s being nice. I still have it, it’s just so predictable and reliable. I feel I make the great picture on the Canon. Quels sont les débits en mb/s ? Features like rear-button-AF and exposure lock buttons that were right there under you thumb gave a sense that as a professional photographer the D3 was designed for you. The engineers at Sony created a great product in the A7R system, regardless of your science-less review. I struggled with it on assignment in Venice, shooting fashion. And equally with the Sony/Zeiss 55mm f/1.8 I’m never let down when it comes to the resolving power at my fingertips. But digitals are another question. I suppose I fit the definition of a ‘dad’…..I would buy the all singing thingy knowing most of the ‘professional’ photographers out there give it more than a 7 out of ten and about the same price as other cameras of +7 reputation. Links; Model Name: Sony Alpha ILCE-A7R III : Prices: Compare Prices: Manufacturer URL: In contrast, I pick up my Canon 5D Mark III and bang, bang, bang, it works every time without worry. If there is one thing those sonys do very well is take photographers back to film cameras. “Mega-hyper-superfluousness(ness)” the most correct word for this world of ever-changing digital contraptions! With the release of the Sony a7rII, there is no doubt that the photo industry is talking…and for good reason. Just lovely! It’s an interesting added feature for a large high end sensor, one that’s intrigued me to explore a bit. Of course, there are exceptions to this. That’s a big difference. I’m totally sold on proper manual focus capability now.. The Sony Alpha 7R II is Sony's flagship mirrorless interchangeable lens camera, featuring a 42.4MP image stabilized full-frame BSI CMOS sensor. When Sony took over the Minolta range of DSLRs, the Minolta design team moved across but they have been confined to designing Sony DSLRs and (D)SLTs. The second version is even more tempting, but it’s beyond my current budget. Well, sometimes I ask myself the same question, but actually I find myself having some surprisingly sensible answers that are largely to do with the nature of the Sony system.eval(ez_write_tag([[336,280],'35mmc_com-medrectangle-4','ezslot_11',181,'0','0'])); As alluded to, the system itself is still very young. I’m currently rocking an A7S with Milvus 50 1.4 and milvus 85 1.4. There are things on this camera I love (tilt screen for one thing) and I would say that overall it has made my job so much more easy but my god there are days when I’m screaming at it. Just interested in the possibilities of corner improvements with older rangefinder lenses. Well, in one sense trapped. The Sony A7R II is a high-resolution full-frame mirrorless camera that exceeds the performance of the LEICA M240 in every way, for half the price. Thanks, Bob! Isn’t the computer work flow of processing our shots way too easy compared with the old fume-filled splish-splosh analogue dark room? My video guy has set them for the way he needs them now I think … … make what you will of that . In the world of documentary wedding photography, the answer is almost always the latter!eval(ez_write_tag([[300,250],'35mmc_com-large-leaderboard-2','ezslot_14',184,'0','0'])); That being said, once you’ve extrapolated that specific advantage across the very-few-other situations I might find within the realms of my pro career, I personally struggle to find much real world else use for very high ISO shooting. Have you spoken to pocket wizzard – in this instance, they might be more useful to you than Sony as it is them who are seeking compatibility as a third party – if that makes sense? One of those capabilities per the A7RII is BSI technology. Yes, there is a way to have the viewfinder/screen switch and stay off, not just dark, on the A7Rii. This is all from getting inspired and reading things on your site! Having shot with all the systems through the years I find them all to have both shortcomings and advantages. A friend who went all in with Sony said he’s experienced the same issue. But that’s where I suspect my agreement with you lies … a pro camera that’s not a pro camera. . The look of the images, the different sense of depth of field, the smaller relative grain size… there’s loads of reasons to shoot bigger formats outside of potential print size, Yes, suse. eval(ez_write_tag([[250,250],'35mmc_com-leader-3','ezslot_21',191,'0','0']));What’s really mind boggling is that once you’ve grasped this over complication in terms of its attractiveness to the lowest common denominator, it’s also designed to be attractive to the video professional. Lightroom isn’t so good. It did need continuous adjustment, and the combination of snappy autofocus and design that favours ergonomics over compactness meant that it felt much more a part of me than the Fuji does. They are like those bureaucrats whose quality is to know how many signatures and stamps a document needs. I’m still hankering after shooting film with a rangefinder again so I’ve ended up this week getting an R3A and 40mm Nokton classic. Imagine that! All of these are buried deep in the menu, yet for me are settings I personally feel I need to access regularly. When you put the Sony A7Rii to your eye, there is little sense of a disconnect from reality as there used to be with digital viewfinders.